multiple versions of internet explorer

agentxi · 11-16-2006

I am working on a site, and i need to check it on ie 6, i've recently updated to 7.0

but microsoft uninstalled my older version...and now i cannot install 6 again cuz it keeps telling me "it detects a newer version already installed" and then cancels my install...

anyways, i need a version of ie6 so i can test my sites properly. or find out how to have more than 1 version of ie installed.

pscoke · 11-16-2006

You can link us to your site for those of us who have IE 6.0 and when can test your site but I don't think you can completely remove IE on a windows machine and do a fresh install. (this is what I was told)

Here is a link to IE 6.0

agentxi · 11-16-2006

here's the site
i'm putting it together for a friend
.: designs by myriah :. .graphic designer.

yeah i just uninstalled ie7 so i can test it...and now i found a bunch more issues with the site.

anyways, can anyone tell my why the right side of the site dropped down? of you check with firefox you can see exactly where it should be.

and yes i'm now aware of the transparency issue for my png's...i'm working on that right now.

pscoke · 11-16-2006

Yeah, looks totally ****ed in IE 6.0 but everything in firefox looks intac. I couldn't tell you why the right side drops down in IE, sorry. But I can't wait to see it when it's, looks very nice!

*notjustgraphics* · 11-16-2006

Nice looking site!

I hate IE.... anyways....

Try changing your #rightside div css to say float left. I recall IE having some issues with horizontally aligned <div>'s

Failing that... the I-fram may be forcing the right div to be as little as 1 pixel wider than the available space, causing it to drop below.... I think because of the scroll bars, the I-frame in IE is slightly wider (2px if I remember correctly) than firefox so you may need to widen the rightside div to allow for that.

I've had to load selected CSS to make sights work the same in FF and IE...

Load the FF CSS first using the <link> tag, and the use a condition IF IE6 routine to load the CSS that is different.

The server will use the "last loaded" css... so if you load the FF #rightside it will be used for FF browsers, but if the browser is IE6, it will load and use a different #rightside css.

Make sure you make all declarations (ie: both the FF and IE6 css contain the same tags: height, width, background, float etc..)

Hope this helps... I had a similar problem at a site i'm working on for a Goth model...

FaTaL iLlUsIoN ::x::x::mOrBiD sEdUcTiOn::x::x::

Mike.

agentxi · 11-17-2006

yeah, so i guess you cannot have more than 1 browser version installed /sigh

i ended up doing an uninstall on msie 7 and now i'm back to 6...and wow, what a mess i made

well i figured out the issue, but cannot fix it, so i'm going to backtrack quite a few steps, to get it to show up properly...i also have that lame png transparency issue to deal with, I hate using java script but i need the site up ASAP, so i'm going to use it for now, and learn the css way to do it down the road

anyways, thanks for the help Mike, I checked and ie makes the left side about 20px wider...I did some hack tricks for msie and no go, so i'm going back to square 1

peace!

*notjustgraphics* · 11-17-2006

Hey agentxi

if you put this script in your <head></head> your PNG transparency issue will be solved...

Code:

<!--[if lt IE 7]>
<script language="JavaScript">
function correctPNG() // correctly handle PNG transparency in Win IE 5.5 & 6.
{
   var arVersion = navigator.appVersion.split("MSIE")
   var version = parseFloat(arVersion[1])
   if ((version >= 5.5) && (document.body.filters)) 
   {
      for(var i=0; i<document.images.length; i++)
      {
         var img = document.images[i]
         var imgName = img.src.toUpperCase()
         if (imgName.substring(imgName.length-3, imgName.length) == "PNG")
         {
            var imgID = (img.id) ? "id='" + img.id + "' " : ""
            var imgClass = (img.className) ? "class='" + img.className + "' " : ""
            var imgTitle = (img.title) ? "title='" + img.title + "' " : "title='" + img.alt + "' "
            var imgStyle = "display:inline-block;" + img.style.cssText 
            if (img.align == "left") imgStyle = "float:left;" + imgStyle
            if (img.align == "right") imgStyle = "float:right;" + imgStyle
            if (img.parentElement.href) imgStyle = "cursor:hand;" + imgStyle
            var strNewHTML = "<span " + imgID + imgClass + imgTitle
            + " style=\"" + "width:" + img.width + "px; height:" + img.height + "px;" + imgStyle + ";"
            + "filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader"
            + "(src=\'" + img.src + "\', sizingMethod='scale');\"></span>" 
            img.outerHTML = strNewHTML
            i = i-1
         }
      }
   }    
}
window.attachEvent("onload", correctPNG);
</script>
<![endif]-->

The images will load opaque but the above script will then make the images transparent based on the alpha transparency of the image....

It's a crude fix, but it works.

Mike.

P.S. Here is a link to site with more details: PNG in Windows IE

**tamlin** · 11-17-2006

Don't know if it'll help, but there's also this, right here at BioRUST: BioRUST.com :: Tutorials >> Fixing the PNG Color Problem in IE

agentxi · 11-17-2006

hey thanks guys...

notjustgraphics: i've actually loaded that code last night on my new version of the site, and what happens is for some reason my javascript rollovers stop working...so i guess i'll have to do the css image replacement procedure instead....

i also found a php way of doing the png fix, so that it doesn't use javascripting, but it's slightly over my head...for now...i'm teaching myself php so i can customize my wordpress blogsite, so in a couple of months i'll come back to that site and try again

here's the link for it. PNG-24 Alpha Transparency With Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 or better (MSIE 5.5+)

thanks tamlin, I have that program on my computer somewhere's just forgot to use it, so thanks for the reminder

Krazy3 · 11-18-2006

If you want to get screenshots go to Browsershots.org

It can give you shots from 20 or so browsers.

agentxi · 12-07-2006

Well I couldn't figure out how to have all the javascripts running at the same time, so I used the image replacement trick for the button rollovers, and i figured out why there was extra padding as well, it was just 1 silly element with too much of a margin that i completely overlooked, but it works now

check out the site and let me know if there are errors on your browser, as far from what i see and can conclude from, there aren't anything in what i tested it in, which is ie 6 and ff 2

and wow, i guess i just hijacked my own thread lmao, I kinda veered off topic here. I guess to conclude on my original question

no...you cannot run multiple versions of ie

and thanks fro the link Krazy3 it just sucks that you have to wait like 4hrs cuz there's usually a queue list of about 1000 people waiting for screenshots :s )

agentxi · 01-27-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by agentxi

I am working on a site, and i need to check it on ie 6, i've recently updated to 7.0

but microsoft uninstalled my older version...and now i cannot install 6 again cuz it keeps telling me "it detects a newer version already installed" and then cancels my install...

anyways, i need a version of ie6 so i can test my sites properly. or find out how to have more than 1 version of ie installed.

I know it's like dunce cap ages ago that I posted this question, but I JUST found the solution...or i think i have. anways to answer my own question but in case anyone else has the same issue, here is a possible workaround/solution for running both ie6 and ie7 on the same computer

IE7: Using IE6 and IE7 together - Tech-Recipes.com

*notjustgraphics* · 01-27-2007

I find it somewhat hilarious that I have been trying to find a way to remove ANY version of IE completely from my system, and you're trying to find a way to run multiple versions...

strange huh...

Mike.

agentxi · 01-27-2007

lmao, yes if i had a choice i'd have no ie running...but unfortunately I DO have to design stuff for "common" browsers, and what's worse, ie is one of them

*notjustgraphics* · 01-28-2007

There's another oddity...

They say IE has nearly 80% market share, yet I barely know anyone who uses it as their primary browser!

Mike.