Is Vista ready yet?

**kokopedal** · 06-29-2008

I'm going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and I was courious what the general concensus was reguarding windows vista. (Professional). Other forums seem to either like or dislike at a 50/50 rate depending on who sponsers the site. Seeing as most of us are photoshopers or graphic artist I wanted to know what if any experience some of you may have. Is vista pro ready for us or should I stay with xp? On the other hand is CS3 ready for Vista Pro? What do ya think?

Tony_photoplus · 06-29-2008

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Originally Posted by kokopedal

I'm going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and I was courious what the general concensus was reguarding windows vista. (Professional). Other forums seem to either like or dislike at a 50/50 rate depending on who sponsers the site. Seeing as most of us are photoshopers or graphic artist I wanted to know what if any experience some of you may have. Is vista pro ready for us or should I stay with xp? On the other hand is CS3 ready for Vista Pro? What do ya think?

Having got Vista on a laptop I would always choose XP. But if given the choice I would go MAC now. You could always opt for Umbuntu

Tried Umbuntu never agian.

I do use CS2 on Vista.

TONY

**synthetic** · 06-29-2008

I am a Mac person so take this with grain of salt but... I HATE VISTA.

I bought an HP laptop earlier this year to use while working on a Flash website. I thought Vista was cool at first because it was trying to emulate OSX on the Mac... but the more I used it... the more frustrated I got with it. Its slow... really slow for the speed of the machine I have it on.

Its flakey... sometimes the Window Explorer app will just flake out and quit. I have had issues with IE7 on Vista crashing a lot. The system warnings are annoying and way to over protective. File permissions are an issue from time to time.

I ran most of the CS3 stuff on it but had a few issues with that as well. Dreamweaver CS3 didn't want to upload certain files to my server so I finally ended up using a third party FTP app to transfer the website files I was working on with a client. I had a few other minor issues with some the CS3 apps but honestly can't remember since I put the laptop away once I got my Mac running again after cleaning out the system.

I have a tech buddy that is a PC guru at work. He told me he wouldn't venture away from XP himself and recommended I give him my laptop so he could install XP for me and rid it of Vista. I am about to do that as soon as I get my info on laptop backed up.

**unleash** · 06-29-2008

Im running vista on al both my laptop and pc,

At one part I like vista, has some great driver options. Everything works really easy, no difficult things. But at the other hand, you lose a lot of control when you go to vista. Vista takes care of a lot of things "behind the scenes" and that is not always as good as it could be. Vista also sends a lot of data back to microsoft, and that is something you should take into consideration, because that means that there is a port open.

So its a difficult choice. I choose vista because of directX 10, not that that is a huge benifit. But I needed it to run my games on full settings. If you only do graphics and coding...I would go for windows XP, that way you have more control over your laptop!

So I think you should go for XP, not for mac btw, there are a lot of things a mac cant do

**Tamlin** · 06-29-2008

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The system warnings are annoying and way to over protective.

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Originally Posted by unleash

you lose a lot of control when you go to vista. Vista takes care of a lot of things "behind the scenes" and that is not always as good as it could be.

I've only experienced Vista on a friend's machine, but that was the overwhelming impression I got from it: "Do you really want to change this setting?"..."Are you absolutely sure?"..."Have you considered the consequences?"..."Is that your final answer?"..."Don't you want to phone a friend?" etc. etc.
However, I'm sure Vista is fine for people who know absolutely nothing about computers, and don't want to know anything about computers, and are easily amused by bright colours and swirly animated cursors.

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So I think you should go for XP, not for mac btw, there are a lot of things a mac cant do

Please - let's not go there again!

**synthetic** · 06-29-2008

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So I think you should go for XP, not for mac btw, there are a lot of things a mac cant do

uhh... like what? other than gaming... there's not much a PC can do better than a Mac... no I wouldn't buy a Mac for gaming because they lack the video options available for higher end PC's which make gaming better and more games available (although the better games eventually get ported to the Mac)

**unleash** · 06-30-2008

Well im not an expert when it comes to macs, and I dont really know what they do better than the average pc(not windows, there are a lot of other os out there). But if I see a Ibook or an Imac, well they are really expensive.

If I look at an Imac and my PC, I think they can do about the same, than the Imac costs me €200 more than my pc(and that is with windows vista OEM)

That and the gaming part(which is important to me) make me say such things

About the control, yeah thats exactly what it does. It ask permission to ask permission so it can ask your permission. But you get used to it after a while

**synthetic** · 06-30-2008

Mac is not for everyone... I understand that. I feel same about Windows too. However, if you compare prices... you must compare a Mac with your higher end PC models... not the cheapest Dells. Toshiba's, HP's, Compaq's etc. on the market. Reason... they are built using different components and many times the cheaper PC models do not have the quality of components used in Macs.

I agree its hard to justify what you get when looking at Mac models to some new Windows machines but... I just look at as if I were buying a automobile. I can buy a cheaper one that does the same thing (gets from point A to point B) but... the more expensive one is going to have more style, reliability and dependability "usually" but not always and I am likely to enjoy it more... so the extra cost doesn't bother me as much. ;-)

For example... every PC friend I have that comes and sits down at my Mac... immediately fall in love with my mouse and keyboard. Two little things that most overlook. Most Window's machines come with sub par keyboards and mice in effort to cut cost. This often is the issue with other components in the computer as well... cheaper quality to save money. Yes, you can upgrade those but... then cost of machine rises... before long a Mac doesn't seem so pricey sometimes.

sorry to get off subject... I tend to be a defender of Mac nobility hehe

**unleash** · 06-30-2008

I knew that synthetic, but Im not attacking mac at all. Everyone that finds a mac handy, should stick to them! Really they should!

But I build my pc, so all the components are high quality. The only thing that suck is my keyboard( Im have been using it for over 5 years now

) But if I compare my machine to a mac in my price class there is a substantial difference. And the style and reliability part....my machine is really reliable, the only thing that keeps it down is windows(thats why I use linux and windows).

But back on topic,

any progress on buying your new machine? Have some options, we can help you choose from(or not)

**supertackyman** · 06-30-2008

VISTA wont be ready until support for XP is discontinued and they come out with something new and worse.

microsoft operating systems are never ready, the just become the lesser of two evils.

**unleash** · 06-30-2008

That is certainly true STM!

The rumour goes that windows is going t ostop with vista, throw it overbord you could say. And start all over again...This way they could use the "information" from vista for there new OS....

But anyway, you could go linux(if you know a good coder, who wants to help you out)

wainrob · 07-06-2008

I don't think Vista is ready yet. There are so many versions of vista, i mean vista out in the market. I guess it means that it is not stable yet.

oshaguar · 07-06-2008

Don't break your head over OS systems. Just make sure you buy yourself at least 2GB of RAM, the best gaming video card you can afford and at least 500GB hard drive. If you do that you will have no problem regardless of what OS you use.

Having said that you make your computer boot 2 or even 3 different operating systems at the same time. Yes you can have XP, VISTA, OBUNTU and what ever tickles your fantasy, you just have to partition your hard drive. I would get XP, and then upgrade when the storm is calm on VISTA. There are lots of forums online and videos that show you how to manipulate your operating system for optimal performance.

The only thing is that your computer only likes to upgrade not downgrade. You will see that going from vista to XP is much tougher than going from XP to vista.

prijikn · 07-08-2008

I enjoy the games that I play on my Mac,Mac so very interesting and Hopefully, we will start to see more games being developed for the Mac.

**supertackyman** · 07-08-2008

my work pc is running dual boot, unfortunately its because my first install (upgrade) to xp didnt take. now I have two. one that works and one I cant seem to get rid of.

only one problem that i can imagine with multiple O.S. systems (and please, anyone may feel free to correct me since i dont like being mistaken.) but since when you install Photoshop (for example) it loads dll files into the boot registry. so that photoshop will run.
if you boot using a different O.S. it wont be using the same boot registry and therefore Photoshop will not run. It also will not have icons on your desktop. the file is still on your harddrive but without the runing the boot registry, its pretty much useless.

I had the same problem when I installed xp next to xp on my work pc. photoshop, autocad and all my other programs were still there, but I had to reinstall them using the new O.S. before they would run.

thinking about this means that if you install your programs into a root directory ( c:\adobe)
and not a windows, linux, etc directory, you will have to install the program multiple times. once using each O.S. and install them to the same folder. so that each O.S. has its own registry info.
Im probably wrong, you may have to install each program more than once and have multiple copies in your pc. one for each O.S. thats a drivehog.
I'm sure that the more tech savvy peeps out there have a better way, but im betting that its not user level stuff.