06-02-2007
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#16 (permalink)
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MOO!
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Time to put 'er down zapp....
nothing personal, its just the right thing to do.
p.s.
I'm usually up to a challenge.
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06-02-2007
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#17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tamlin
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The thread is designed from a professional point of view to encourage people of all skill levels to tackle a design brief. It is up to the community to make it work by adding their contribution, be it a filter, or a full redesign. It's based around the entire community to pull together and work on an ongoing project to ecourage flair, creativity and imagination from the community.
There is NEVER an excuse to say something lacks imagination - in this project it's down to the imagination of the community. It is a true test of your design ability. Designers don't design what they want to design 24/7 so it's up to them to practise turning something from someone else into something what they consider visually better and creativitly better. If you find this thread lacks imagination is because you lack the imagination and effort to turn it into something you find appealing.
This thread is tailormade for a graphics community believe it or not and it's perfect for preparing designers for tackling briefs of all natures. If you spent time actually using your imagination to contribute instead of bickering the thread may of actually taken off.
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06-02-2007
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#18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by supertackyman
I'm usually up to a challenge.
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At least there's a few out there who still actually like to design. Shame the rest of the community looks like they've died though.
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06-02-2007
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#19 (permalink)
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Designers don't design what they want to design 24/7 so it's up to them to practise turning something from someone else into something what they consider visually better and creativitly better. If you find this thread lacks imagination is because you lack the imagination and effort to turn it into something you find appealing.
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maybe... but it's for the exact reason that I have to design crap other people throughout my workweek, I do not want to spend my spare time doing the same thing. If I'm going to create something, it's going to be on my own inspirations and interests and not an exercise to recreate my work environment.
I think the idea of the "exercise" is a good one, but for starters, It took me about 10 tries before I actually got through your first post and to be honest, I've still never read through it all.
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At least there's a few out there who still actually like to design. Shame the rest of the community looks like they've died though.
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your new, so I'll leave this one be.
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06-02-2007
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#20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by agentxi
maybe... but it's for the exact reason that I have to design crap other people throughout my workweek, I do not want to spend my spare time doing the same thing. If I'm going to create something, it's going to be on my own inspirations and interests and not an exercise to recreate my work environment.
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True, but after looking through the gallery, the vast majority of users here are not graphics professionals and a huge chunk of members really do need to improve their skills. Most people use forums such as these to increase their skills and this sort of thread is the way to go about it.
People do not improve their skills by creating work just for themselves like the ever popular 'sig-banners'. Constantly challenging yourself makes a designer design better. If people hate design they should simply not be designing in the first place.
But if you read the thread, you'll find it's not asking for commercial work, but personal experiments following a very simple guide thus not limiting creative freedom.
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Originally Posted by agentxi
I think the idea of the "exercise" is a good one, but for starters, It took me about 10 tries before I actually got through your first post and to be honest, I've still never read through it all.
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To be frank, when expalining to people on the internet you have to explain from all angles possible, as there's always someone out there who has no idea what you're talking about. Considering how many people in the community with different skill levels and experience, you have to go into detail in order for them all to grasp the idea, instead of wondering what to do. I could of quite easy just posted an image and left it at that, but I tried to make it slightly 'fun' for the reader.
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Originally Posted by agentxi
your new, so I'll leave this one be.
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Don't be so sure.
When I used to post here before, the forum community was crying out for a change to the 'Battles' system as people kept missing out on them. They also wanted a community project. Now that I returned to the forum, I thought this would be the perfect soluation for all those people doing the complaining...how wrong I was lol I should of really not wasted my time trying to help out.
What annoys me more is that this style of project works wonders on other communities and is one of the most popular creative sessions carried out by professional designers, yet gains negative feedback from BioRUST lol very odd indeed.
But to leave this post on a high, I recommend that you use #F5F5F0 on your signature background, rather than #FFFFFF, it would make your sig 'jump out' more.
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06-02-2007
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You call yourself a leader of men yet you give up way too easily. Honestly Zip, now I know why Kif was none too happy while in your employment, he quite by the way. You are an "arrogant *******" Kif's words not mine. You were probably one of those kids that ran off crying if you couldn't win, or threw a temper tantrum if you didn't get your way ALL the time. I am relatively new to the art community and specially new to the Biorust FAMILY, however I think I speak for a number of members when I say "STICK TO COMEDY". Kif was right about you, we both find you rude, offencive, and extremely closed minded. Perhaps you should take a step back and look at your own style and understand that not everyone is impressed with it. I personally think that Biorust is still very much alive and will continue to remain so weather we participate in your calisthenics or not.
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06-02-2007
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Originally Posted by kokopedal
You call yourself a leader of men yet you give up way too easily.
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The people who give up too easy are the ones who haven't donated to the thread because they lack the imagination or effort to contribute. There's only so much a thread starter can do I'm afraid.
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Originally Posted by kokopedal
You are an "arrogant *******" Kif's words not mine. You were probably one of those kids that ran off crying if you couldn't win, or threw a temper tantrum if you didn't get your way ALL the time.
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I'm a professional graphic designer looking to advance my skills and help others along the way, who share the same interest. I expect people to design on a design forum. If I put in my own valuable time and effort into trying to spark some life into this forum, I expect my time not to be wasted, which it has by the looks of it. If people are unwilling to contribute to a simple idea that other communities snap up instantly then maybe there's something seriously wrong here. Is this not a graphics forum? Is this not a place to generate community collaborations?
If expecting a design community to collaborate in a design project is arrogant than so be it lol
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Originally Posted by kokopedal
I am relatively new to the art community and specially new to the Biorust FAMILY, however I think I speak for a number of members when I say "STICK TO COMEDY". Kif was right about you, we both find you rude, offencive, and extremely closed minded.
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As above - I expect a design forum to be interested in a design project. If expecting a design community to design is closed minded - I plead guilty lol arrest me and throw away the key
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Originally Posted by kokopedal
Perhaps you should take a step back and look at your own style and understand that not everyone is impressed with it. I personally think that Biorust is still very much alive and will continue to remain so weather we participate in your calisthenics or not.
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Biorust was an active forum. But now there's hardly any posts or contributions. Most people who come here now just seem to want to leech resources and have very little interest in actual design and being part of a 'community' like what I remember it. Such a shame. I did my bit to try resurrect things, but people like you bicker like a child as soon as someone makes a thread to try pull people together instead...try pulling your finger out - use your imagination and get contributing. It's a lot more productive and saves time wasted on pointless posts like the one you just made. Try getting creative. Got a point to prove? Dislike me or the topic? Turn your words into graphics instead.
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Take this thread as another example of my point:
http://forums.biorust.com/general-di...your-turn.html (Your Turn)
Only two people contributed to it (including myself) and the thread was a sticky for god knows how long.
You can call me arrogant if you wish, but I call it a kick up the ass to the community in attempt to motivate a graphics forum into doing some graphics.
Last edited by Zapp Brannigan; 06-02-2007 at 09:16 PM.
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06-02-2007
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Thank you for proving MY point.
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06-02-2007
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Originally Posted by kokopedal
Thank you for proving MY point.
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If you're going to contribute to the thread at least stay ontopic.
A nice twist in defacing the Zapper. Here's something as childish in return
Now please, do not spam or troll this thread. If you don't like it - don't post on it. If anyone else wants to contribute, stay ontopic. Thanks 
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06-02-2007
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You said you put your "valuable time and effort" into this, but i don't really see where?
The text was probably copied off from another event pretty much like this and then just "fitted" to fit BioRUST.
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06-02-2007
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Originally Posted by turvas
You said you put your "valuable time and effort" into this, but i don't really see where?
The text was probably copied off from another event pretty much like this and then just "fitted" to fit BioRUST.
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Everything posted by me on this thread is my own work thank you very much. All text, the idea, the continued moderation of the thread, including a number of artwork submissions takes up my time and effort invested into this 'community'.
I could quite easy invest my time elsewhere. Due to how much this community has changed over the years and months since I used to post here, I'm beginning to wonder why I came back and why I'm even sticking around.
I am a professional seeking fellow professionals to work with in various projects, while helping people improve their skills in the process. If you don't want to contribute on this thread - do not post on it. Is this too much to ask?
I also don't care for the accusations Turvas.
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06-02-2007
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If you are a professional then act like one. Please tell me that's not the best you can do to my picture.
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06-02-2007
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#28 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by kokopedal
If you are a professional then act like one. Please tell me that's not the best you can do to my picture.
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It took me no longer than two minutes to create, which is all that is required to state my message to you.
I shall state again incase you missed it:
Now please, do not spam or troll this thread. If you don't like it - don't post on it. If anyone else wants to contribute, stay ontopic. Thanks
The rules are as follows:
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Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan
Biorust Community Collaboration Project 1.0 - Rules
1. Use any style (vector, grunge, tech, illustration, stock/render, photomanip, typography etc)
2. There is no main theme, just your creativity.
3. Use at least one design element (e.g. background, foreground, focus point, character, text, layout, décor etc) from the previous artwork posted.
4. Use typography (text) on your work to either continue a ‘story’ from the previous work, or a title for your work contained within your image.
5. The image must remain the same size throughout all contributions.
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If you continue to troll and spam this thread and act like a child - do not be upset when you continue to lose reputation.
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06-04-2007
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#29 (permalink)
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Umm... Hellooo... Earth (and every other planet) to Zapper: Who gives a last arse about the reputation?! Speaking of which: what happened to yours? And koko's second post was as much spam as was your post of his face (btw i don't like that you're getting personal). And atleast some of us don't need to hide behind a cartoon charater to say out our opinion... And you call yourself a professional graphican? For laughing out loud...
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06-04-2007
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Originally Posted by turvas
Umm... Hellooo... Earth (and every other planet) to Zapper: Who gives a last arse about the reputation?! Speaking of which: what happened to yours? And koko's second post was as much spam as was your post of his face (btw i don't like that you're getting personal). And atleast some of us don't need to hide behind a cartoon charater to say out our opinion... And you call yourself a professional graphican? For laughing out loud...
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He started it - I finished it. He learned his lesson. We both moved on.
Continue to throw false accusations around again and I'll drop your reputation too.
I went to college and uni to study graphics, I've worked for a number of companies as a designer and sign writer and I currently work as a graphic designer and illustrator, working with local companies. I visit forums such as these to improve upon my skills and to help others along the way. I don't expect muppets wasting my time, that could be invested into people who are more appreciative.
If you don't wish to stay ontopic, I recommend that you stop posting on this thread!
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