Old 02-25-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Browser?whats ur choice?

I have been using Opera for 1 year,but i realized it suck when using with PHP script....Is there anybrowser out there that math Opera at speed but support for web as good as Firefox?thx.
P/S:I dont like FIrefox,so dont tell me about that,thx again.
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Well, since you ask which browser is my favorite. I'd say Firefox definately eventhough I have no more experience with others (except IE).
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I have a passionate hate relationship towards Opera, but I absolutely love Firefox. I still get pissed when some of my relatives want me to fix their computers, and I find they don't use FF :P

As for alternates, I can't really point you anywhere.
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get over your hate for firefox, it's the best
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Firefox is good but its speed is hella slow,i have compared its speed with Maxthon and Opera,i prefer Maxthon than whatever since i `ve known it,take a look
www.maxthon.com (its old name is MyIE)
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Huh? Firefox is the fastest browser I've ever used. You can tweak it to make it quite faster than the default. If that's your only complaint, then in my opnion, you have no case
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Firefox's default config is not so good.
Download some extensions [addons], some themes and reconfig it to make it faster.
There's you go, you have the best browser in the world.

dont use opera, it cannot render pages properly.
Maxthon, aweful render and doesnt support CSS websites,
IE, Plz dont get me started on its cons.
Mozilla, [not firefox] is pretty good but its kinda slow (good as a substitute browser)
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Well, IE is the best, it doesnt have any retarded code parser like firefox, so i have to usually write 2 different css, one for ff and one for ie, even though the one for ie is standard friendly. Put to that some html not working at all all of a sudden even though the xhtml checker is either blind or everything is truly allright.

Yes i agree there are vulnerabilities, but there are also quite a few plugins that can compensate them. And Maxthon is a nicely enhanced IE which i also prefer.

Hell, what if 95% of the population used firefox, wouldnt it be security hellhole too?
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WHAT? I mean... WHAT?
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Firefox can be faster?is that true,could u guys teach me how to do that,pls
Maxthon is crazy too
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Option 1
Speed up FireFox:

1. Type "about:config" in the address field (without quotes).
2. Set the value of network.http.pipelining to "true".
3. Set the value of network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to "100".
4. Set the value of network.http.proxy.pipelining to "true"
5. Set the value of nglayout.initialpaint.delay to "0"

Option 2 (nearly identical to Option 1)
Try these settings:
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/9720/aboutconfig4yk.jpg

Option 3

Another way to speed up Firefox (especially for broadband):
1. Type "about:config" in the address field (without quotes).
2. Right-click anywhere and select New > Integer.
3. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". The value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it receives.

Option 4
I've heard good things about Firefox Preloader, however, I haven't tested it. If anyone does, please let me know if you see a difference.

Here's the link:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/

NOTE: When you change the settings you will need to restart Firefox.

Edit:

Found other ways to speed up Firefox. I ganked it from another forum.

1. Type "about:config" into the address bar and hit enter. Scroll down and look for the following entries:

network.http.pipelining
network.http.proxy.pipelining
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests

Normally the browser will make one request to a web page at a time. When you enable pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page loading.

2. Alter the entries as follows:

Set "network.http.pipelining" to "true"

Set "network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true"

Set "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to some number like 30. This means it will make 30 requests at once.

3. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it recieves.

Another tweak:

First, install ChromEdit (http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=21) extension. It make it easier to edit user files.

Now, run Firefox, go to Tools > Edit User Files, click user.js tab.

Insert the following texts based on your PC speed and internet connection.

Common to all configurations

These are the settings that seem to be common to all configuration files regardless of connection speed or computer speed with a couple of additions - plugin paths can be found with aboutlugins and the bookmark menu delay is turned off.
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user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 8);
user_pref("content.notify.backoffcount", 5);
user_pref("plugin.expose_full_path", true);
user_pref("ui.submenuDelay", 0);


Fast Computer Fast Connection
CODE
user_pref("content.interrupt.parsing", true);
user_pref("content.max.tokenizing.time", 2250000);
user_pref("content.notify.interval", 750000);
user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);
user_pref("content.switch.threshold", 750000);
user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 0);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 30);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 8);
user_pref("browser.cache.memory.capacity", 65536);


A couple settings of note - Firefox is allocated 4096 KB of memory by default and in this configuration we give it roughly 65MB as denoted by the last line. This can be changed according to what is used.

Fast Computer, Slower Connection

This configuration is more suited to people without ultra fast connections. We are not talking about dial up connections but slower DSL / Cable connections.
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user_pref("content.max.tokenizing.time", 2250000);
user_pref("content.notify.interval", 750000);
user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);
user_pref("content.switch.threshold", 750000);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 48);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 8);
user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 0);
user_pref("browser.cache.memory.capacity", 65536);


Fast Computer, Slow Connection
CODE
user_pref("browser.xul.error_pages.enabled", true);
user_pref("content.interrupt.parsing", true);
user_pref("content.max.tokenizing.time", 3000000);
user_pref("content.maxtextrun", 8191);
user_pref("content.notify.interval", 750000);
user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);
user_pref("content.switch.threshold", 750000);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 32);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 8);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 8);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 4);
user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 0);
user_pref("browser.cache.memory.capacity", 65536);


Slow Computer, Fast Connection
CODE
user_pref("content.max.tokenizing.time", 3000000);
user_pref("content.notify.backoffcount", 5);
user_pref("content.notify.interval", 1000000);
user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);
user_pref("content.switch.threshold", 1000000);
user_pref("content.maxtextrun", 4095);
user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 1000);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 48);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 16);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 8);
user_pref("dom.disable_window_status_change", true);


One of the changes made for this particular configuration is the final line where the status bar is disabled for changing web pages to save processor time.

Slow Computer, Slow Connection

We have entered the doldrums of the dial-up user

CODE
user_pref("content.max.tokenizing.time", 2250000);
user_pref("content.notify.interval", 750000);
user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);
user_pref("content.switch.threshold", 750000);
user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 750);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 32);
user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 8);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 8);
user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 4);
user_pref("dom.disable_window_status_change", true);
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Thank you so much for that last post S2F!!! Those settings changes sped my firefox up at least twice as fast as it was previously. Unfortunately it still takes the same 10 seconds or so to load up the browser from the desktop. Is there anyway to speed that up too?
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Do you have a bunch of extensions installed? I believe Firefox loads all of the extensions when it first loads which increases load time.
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This may help you:

Prefetch

This tweak changes how Windows loads Firefox. If you prefetch the application it will start much faster. Edit your Firefox shortcut to read:
' "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" /prefetch:1 '
That will prefetch the required .dlls and make Firefox load much faster each time you load it. Just make sure to keep that prefetch code in the shortcut and to run it once per-reset for the prefetching effect.

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And yet again S2F proves me wrong... :sigh:
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