Is this Art

[tony2fla]

I am curious, is what we do art? We create many beautiful images yet people (outsiders) do not consider this art. They do not realize the time, effort or investment that we make. Just because it is not paint on canvas. How can we change peoples perceptions. Please add your thoughts
Tony

[turvas]

You can always print your work... Altough we might be unapreciated by others we always have our pride and the "insiders".

[unleash]

Yep, but I think the main sollution is fairly simple.

print you're work hang it up in somekind of an gallery and put an overrated price tag on it. like one that says 2,3 million euro.....then buy you're own art, and people will believe the price is worth it.

And there you have youre art

But I must also agree with turvas, as long as you find pride in you're work it is art!!

[foggyrain]

People's perception of art vary. I consider this art and will defend it. Yes, we can print our work and hang it up... but what about some of the wonderful website designs? How does that differ so much from a print layout? Not much... someone created it.

There are many different types of art, all of which require talent and patience. Just because you sometimes can't hang our work on a wall doesn't mean it's not art.

Our work is just more technologically advanced. We learned (and continue to learn) the tools to convey our ideas.

Be creative fellow Biorusters! Go out there and give the world your art! I'll be right there along with ya!

[Yusecki]

Originally Posted by tony2fla

How can we change peoples perceptions.

Print it out n put a bit of paint over it
Besides a lot of art on here, to me, seems to be photoshop manipulation which is a far cry from being able to draw.
The drawing and painting ability of the artist together with the ignorance of the reviewer is what states art. Many people call the old masters true artists but some of them used grids and reflected scenes onto walls and painted over them.
Whether something is art or not is up to the mind but generally I find drawing ability is what people see as Art. Then again, to counter that, how many people watch cartoons and go 'wow! What amazing artwork!' Besides me that is?

btw i think photomanipulation is art, and even [though least of all to me] Photography. Art can also be found in other forms if ou know where to look. you could say; art is creativity.

[Phoenix Wynde]

I think the question is "what isn't considered art"?

Based on how we are all unique, I don't think any dictionary or even a "professional" artist can define what art truly is. But, ask someone what art isn't you'll get them thinking. =]

[notjustgraphics]

Of course it is art... Anything that is consciously created by you is your art...

Whether it be a photo, painting, print, music, dance, story, clothing, or what have you, if it is your product, it is your art...

That said, each person objectifies and appreciates art in their own way, and therefore, it is reasonable that what each individual considers art is as unique as they are.

I agree with dewdman's comment that the question really is "What isn't considered art?" but more than that, i think the question you have to ask yourself is "What do I consider art?". When you can answer that for yourself, you will be satisfied with labelling your own work as "art".

For the record, I consider every member of this community an artist... and every gallery submission I have seen has truly been a work of art.

Thank-you for allowing me to waste your time once again.

Mike.

[foggyrain]

Art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This link gives a good definition of the what is art? question. And there are many mediums as listed by notjustgraphics, including graphic design.

I do also like dewdman's question of "what isn't art?" because what we do definitely is art (in my book, at least).

[StormGirl_blue]

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yeap its art..
actualy as Im developing now Im starting to call myself a "photoshop artist"
I make craft things (used to when I had time for clients ) for a living and people called me an artist, I often corrected them saying some of it is art...ie the original designs and the ones I slaved over are the art ones.. but most of it I refered to as craft.. ie the ones I bulked out and painted by numbers sort of thing on.

I suppose we could do the same with photoshop, simple image enhancment or skin smoothing stuff, and such could be refered to as craft, and many biorusters are master crafters.
And then there are many biorusters that create a world of beautifull art, to refere to them as anything less than an artist is a sin.

"How can we change peoples perceptions...."
Always aspire to keep it original, and encourage others to do the same. Signing work may also help.

[tamlin]

Originally Posted by tony2fla

We create many beautiful images yet people (outsiders) do not consider this art.

Who are these people? Morons?

But seriously: my own (somewhat simplistic) definition of "art" has always been something that has been specifically created by a human being. The Grand Canyon is not art (in by book), but a photograph or painting or sculpture of the Grand Canyon is art.

[Neesha]

Funny we had this discussion in an art appreciation class i took a while back. Everyone has pretty much summed it up. Art is something that not everyone can fully understand. Just like when people tell me that they are not artistic, my response is always, "we are all artistic". Art is so multi-faceted it is ridiculous.

[agentxi]

I've had a very interesting discussion with an art gallery owner. She told me that anything that's been on the computer is NOT art and that she will NEVER have any kind of "computer 'art' " in her gallery, even if you scan in a painting and then print it out, she will not allow it in her gallery. I've noticed this is not an argument that will ever win, only raise blood pressures, so I just let her rant on (secretly laughing at her in my mind *eville grin)

I believe people like this (and there's a lot of them out there) are stubborn and traditionalists. People of ignorance because they've never had the experience of doing something in photoshop, or a program like it. These people are much like the people who said movies with sound isn't a real movie. Or people who said using colored cameras instead of black and white cameras isn't real photography.

These people are afraid of change and new technologies, and will cling onto what they know to already work, without giving a chance to new things. Give us another decade and we'll be the ones saying the next medium of art isn't real art because it's not done with photoshop :P

/end rant

-agentxi-

[Can't Sleep]

Recently, the mayor of our city allowed one wall of a downtown overpass to be designated an "official public graffiti" wall...a canvas one city block long. Many artists took it seriously and produced a constantly evolving piece of public art. It was actually pretty remarkable to witness. Of course, since it was a public forum, any nimrod with a can of Krylon could scrawl on it.

Apparently nearby businesses started to complain that the indiscriminate tagging made the site look trashy. I don't know...maybe they were afraid that it encouraged gang activity or something. Anyway, the project was decommissioned 6 months early and painted over.

Was it art? Sure.
Did the fact that some people couldn't operate within the parameters of the project diminish its impact? Not really.
In fact it drew attention to a form of artistic expression that is still largely criminalized or at the very least considered lowbrow.

I think I was trying to make a point about the subjective nature of "Art" as opposed to "art" but I'm afraid my train of thought got derailed somewhere down the line.
Here are some pictures from the project:
http://www.ourartsite.com/graf_wall.php

[tamlin]

Originally Posted by Can't Sleep

I think I was trying to make a point about the subjective nature of "Art" as opposed to "art" but I'm afraid my train of thought got derailed somewhere down the line.

Well, I understood what you were saying - you make a very good point.

[LaFleureRouge]

Originally Posted by tamlin

Who are these people? Morons?

But seriously: my own (somewhat simplistic) definition of "art" has always been something that has been specifically created by a human being. The Grand Canyon is not art (in by book), but a photograph or painting or sculpture of the Grand Canyon is art.

I think there is a bigger question here. Why do we create art at all?
Weather it be a photograph drawing painting wood working photoshop or any other form of creativity.

Someone said it was to keep a human record of the time we live in.

I see it as a gift from the creator. We reproduce an image of the glory of the creators creations. Because we were made in his image.

Tamlin the grand cayon is art and as humans we marvel at the gr8est artists work of all.

Hope this is not to deep. lol
RED