Old 11-23-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Tutorial Rip

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http://biorust.com/index.php?page=tu...etail&tutid=27

Ripped:
http://www.crunked-designs.com/tutor..._from=&ucat=1&

You decide. They look too similar to me.
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Old 11-23-2004   #2 (permalink)
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Seem very similar to me -- only difference is the Accented Edges... Odd.
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they're very similar, perhaps zuccs read m0gs tutorials and rewrote it
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If that was the case then he should've given a credit. This is an obvious rip.
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If that was the case then he should've given a credit. This is an obvious rip.
contact him about it
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Old 11-23-2004   #6 (permalink)
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This is definately a rip! I'm on-call this week, though, and really don't have time to deal with it. Anyone want to act as my guard-dog until I can return properly on sunday evening?

Edit: I've added a comment to their shoutbox saying that it is a rip. If everyone else could do the same i'm sure the ripper could be forced to see the error of their ways...
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Old 11-23-2004   #7 (permalink)
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Thumbs down sad.....

hi,

You really think that is a rip from your site? Anyway, i didn't write the tutorial, it was submitted to my old site http://www.dev-freak.com well over a year ago. How long has that circuit tute been up on this site just out of interest?

They are also all over the net. Just like those tentacle tutorials….you claiming yours was the first one in existence too? I’m not saying I wrote that circuit tutorial, at the time I thought the guy who submitted must have wrote it, but I’ve seen plenty of others since then anyway..

With a quick search i found this one too, once again similar, http://forum.weborum.com/index.php?act=ST&f=36&t=278 too.. I’m against plagiarism, so if I believed it was a direct rip, I would remove it. All my work is original, look through my other tutorials http://www.crunked-designs.com/tutorials.php, I would hate it if people ripped my hard work off too.

I would be interesting in using this account and helping out; posting on your forums, but since you blunting accuse me of ripping your tutorial, without even taking the time to quickly e-mail me, and then encouraging your members to spam our shoutbox I don't think i will bother.

Please stop wasting your time, and solve some murders or do something constructive.
Yours sincerely,
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im not saying i dont believe you, you could well be truthful, you could well be lying, but the fact of the matter is, that's what they all say.

you're right in saying that many places have this tutorial, but somebody had to write this tutorial originally? it is ofcourse possible that someone wrote a tutorial similar without knowing of that original tutorial.

i don't want to get involved in this so im opting out, all i can say is, it'd be great to have your contribution to the forums, provided that you don't rip more of our tutorials (if you did rip it in the first place).
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You really think I would bother copying one crappy tute from this site and then not even bother submit it to good-tutorials.com? It was only there because I had it stored offline from my old site, and I was just testing the site out, trying to build up the database.

And anyway, if I did rip it (even though I didn't write the stupid thing), why would I bother taking it from a huge, well-known site like this one. Surely I would go looking for small, unknown message boards to plagerise?

Either way, you guys went about it completely the wrong way. By advertising for viewers to spam my shoutbox, what is that going to achieve? You could have easily e-mailed me, and I would have happily looked into it.

Please find something better to do with your time and stop wasting mine.
 
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LOl, I agree with scrowler - Zuccs reply is typical of the type I get all the time from people who rip tutorials. I'm not gonna argue with a ripper anyway - the admin on good-tutorials can spot rips a mile off, and if he doesn't i'll just report it to him anyway. Oh, and i'll be having a word with your ISP later this weekend Zuccs, when i'm not on-call.
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You really think I would bother copying one crappy tute from this site and then not even bother submit it to good-tutorials.com? It was only there because I had it stored offline from my old site, and I was just testing the site out, trying to build up the database.
Great way to make points.. and very suicidal. The tutorial is practically the same. Can you for a matter of fact, prove it was not a rip, can you find this person who submitted it, to prove he submitted it? Can you prove you have had this tutorial offline for ages? Can you prove anything in contrary to your statements.

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and I was just testing the site out, trying to build up the database.
Who would dig out a "not ripped" tutorial that is over an year old to test out a database, or a site? I would really double check your statements, they are full of holes.

For that matter, I for one don't think that you had this, unless you prove me wrong.. you are a ripper. Good Day.
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omg, if you guys even bothered to check my other site like I had suggested in the first reply you would have found it there.. there is the URL for you guys too lazy to even checkup on it..

http://www.dev-freak.com/index.php?p...s/tutorials_ps

look at all my other tutorials on crunked-designs.com do any of those look like rips too? why would i waste my time copying one crappy tutorial from your site and then not doing anything with it?

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Who would dig out a "not ripped" tutorial that is over an year old to test out a database, or a site?
I already had that tutorial on my hard drive from my other site so I added that, and I added a new one that I wrote a few days before when the other admin was fixing up the layout.

I doubt I will still have the e-mail from the guy who submitted it. If i kept e-mails that long I would need a new hard drive to store them all. He didn't submit any pics or anything i think, i remember make it myself from his instructions.

Can you serioulsy get your head out of your arse for a second, and look into these things properly without all ganging up on me?
 
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im not taking sides here... well i actually kind of am now but.. i think, you should stop bitching at us now, you've given us your side of things.

either prove that you didn't rip the tutorial, that doesnt mean post more personal accounts and opinions, hard evidence, or we continue to believe that you ripped it
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Hi guys, I just came across this topic browsing around the forums, and thought it would be interesting to see what happens when such a thing happens. I am thinking about starting a PS tutorial site of my own, so I want to know more about this kind of thing.

From my point of view, yes the tutorial does look the same, but barely. Someone could of easily taken the original, modified parts of it, including changing text, then posted it wherever. However, like Zuccs does state, it seems you are all ganging up on him. What are the chances of someone being able to create a slightly simular looking tut without actually seeing someone else's versions? In my experience, I think it is completely possible. But both sides have their very valid points, but there is one thing I strong disagree with....

The way you acted about such an issue was very immature - if you see someone ripping a tutorial (in your belief), why wouldn't you approach them more personally (by email), instead of trying to win a crowd together so you can gang-up on someone. If you had of just emailed the author asking nicely for them to remove it, maybe he would of. And if you hadn't of been so agressive maybe your time wouldn't be so wasted. I know I am wasting my time now, because someone will just give me a stupid reply without even reading my post. Enough said, both sides could of handled things better.
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i dont like seeing peoples work being ripped off, i would be spitting if someone ripped my tutorials

if he did copy it, and i dont know if he did or not, but if he did, it's illegal (if mog copyrighted his tutorial) so he deserves to be ganged up on, since there is no way to enforce the law..

IMO anyway
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