Old 06-27-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Cutting around hair

This is a picture of my wife, Im happy with everything except the sharp lines around her hair.

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Can anyone help me get rid of those. Thanks
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Old 06-27-2007   #2 (permalink)
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There are lots of tutorials out there that cover different methods of cutting out hair, but one of the most effective methods is to use the Extract filter. It's too complicated to go into here, but its usage is pretty well explained in Photoshop Help.
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thanks tamlin, Ill try it. by the way, what do you think of the work other than the sharp hair
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thanks tamlin, Ill try it. by the way, what do you think of the work other than the sharp hair
Not too bad - the only thing I can think of is maybe use a softer-edged brush to apply the colour to her lips and maybe the black around her eyes - the edges look a little hard and artificial as they are. The red outer glow works well.
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I learned a trick for hair and furry animals way back when PS was around version 5 I think. Basically, I use channels to create a mask for the subjects. The idea is to look at the channels and find the one with most contrast to use for creating the mask. I work mostly in CMYK though and its possible this might be a better method for CMYK pic rather than RGB but I think I have done it in both modes. You want the channel that shows the detail in the hair or fur but also has enough contrast to seperate it from the background.

I just duplicate the channel that looks like it was best detail and contrast creating basically an alpha channel. Then, using levels or adjust contrast... I create more contrast between background and subject while trying to keep the details of the hair or fur visible on that new alpha channel. Many times, I will have to go in and touch up some areas with a brush to fill open areas or add info that was lost in the levels/contrast adjustment phase as I create the silouette shape that will basically be the subjects mask when done. Just use that alpha channel to create your mask for the subject when satisfied.

It takes a little time depending on the photo but... it has worked well over the years for myself especially with femaie hair. Hope that helps.... possibly one day soon... i will have my new website finished and will include this as one of my lessons with visual content to help further explain
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funny... just as I made the first post... I happened to get a pic that I needed to use that same method. It was RGB... used the blue channel and got the details of his hair isolated... had to back in with brush to fill in the black to a solid in some areas and touch up the right side where a shadow made it hard to get details seperated from bg. You can see before and after in pics. I even applied a slight blur to the mask for softer edges in the final with more touch up in the details on the hair.

Ohh... I could probably soften up a few areas but I don't worry about that in my workflow. This pic was pulled into InDesign for advertising use. It has clipping path on it that is not real tight (because of issues with too complex paths and our imagers) and so I have gotten used to feathering objects with a clipping path. So this pic will probably get a 1-2pt feather all around which helps it to blend into my backgrounds better.
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thanks synthetic, Ill try that when I get home tonight. Ill post another pic and leave the link here.
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i always found that doing it manually with a soft edge brush/eraser worked the best for me
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yeah that looks pretty good syn
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i always found that doing it manually with a soft edge brush/eraser worked the best for me
i do the same. i zoom in to the point that i can still see as much detail as possible and use a 6-8 sized eraser.
i've heard fluidmask makes a pretty good program to help in cuttin around hair. but i tend to like havin the control myself. that way i can make corrections where i see fit.
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This is a picture of my wife, Im happy with everything except the sharp lines around her hair.

http://forums.biorust.com/photopost/...1-Red_Glow.jpg


Can anyone help me get rid of those. Thanks
Are u kidding?I dont really belive that its your wife.
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so funny
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This is a picture of my wife, Im happy with everything except the sharp lines around her hair.

http://forums.biorust.com/photopost/...1-Red_Glow.jpg


Can anyone help me get rid of those. Thanks
I think I saw this tutorial on PSTUT.com, do a google search and you will get 10 different methods, so you can choose the method you are most comfortable with.
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This may seem a little self-serving, but, hey, it answers the question, so...
Take a look at this - BioRUST.com :: Tutorials >> Using Calculations & Channels
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