thanks notjustforgraphics
i think i will stay away from the fluid layout's i think they are a bit to confusing,i'll go with your advise and use a 800x600 and maybe a little bit bigger,it would be mainly for the public to see as they would be my main customer's buying my stuff,i find html hard only because i'm lazy that's why i went for coffe cup i don't know if that was right or wrong i'll see,it only took them 2 week's to give a password so i could download the software.
thanks again mike
i now know that notjustforgraphics is the matrix not tamlin