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Originally Posted by stiney51
I like the idea of the 2nd concept. I think you should abandon the pen'd type though. The balance shouldn't be thrown off with the "L" instead of the "l" if you have the letters closer together.
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Yes, but with the people I couldn't have them close together because of the spacing. As you can see, the letters are close together in the first design, so its an "L" but in the second one its much harder to keep them closer together while making the design work, hence the "l"
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The type you choose needs to be bold and stand out, but should really stand out on its own as well. There's nothing wrong with using a more plain font and jazing the logo up with your design.
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I made the text to be bold and stand out so I'm a little lost as to why it isn't
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Consider starting with black & white (greyscale) before adding the color. When you take your existing design and convert it, it loses a lot of appeal and the type gets a little lost in the overall design.
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So if it doesnt look good in Black and White...scratch it?