[ecntrc]

Ok so, yes Im finally turning to you guys. I usually go straight to you guys when I need help with something. But for some reason I held back. Basically because I dont want you guys to think Im an idiot. Or stupid. But anyways, Ill just say im making this logo for a few friends. Its a long story but anyways, since im the only one thats some what graphically inclined, I decided to make the logo for our shirts. Now they we want the red, yellow green colors. The tshirt and jacket will be already black. So were going for reggae colors. Now the one with the two plumerias, or flowers, will go on the shirt with the hawaiian islands on the right side of the shirt, like on the hip. The one with just the islands and da union will go on the back of the jacket.

Number 15 is my favorite, number 11 is nice. I think that it does look alright with the flower and the islands but the girls said it looks too much so I took it out. Now number 8 Im beginning to think it just looks too much with both flowers.

Also the guy that will be printing it, maybe maybe not, said that since the jacket will be black (this would be for #11), and I wanted to keep the words black but put outer glow & other text effects, he said that you wouldnt be able to see it from like 8 steps back. Which I guess is true..

I guess what im asking for is opinions. What you guys think. The girls are worried about getting our **** stolen also. Like ideas but sometimes you gotta take chances. Because being that Im not that graphically inclined, I need some help from people who are. People who can help me out. Anybody?